Micro Loans

topic posted Wed, November 1, 2006 - 9:08 PM by  Lazarus
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I took note recently of the Nobel Peace Prize, the issue was Micro Loans. It is a good idea long overdue for those of us that feel the bureaucracies are inefficient and make our donations meaningless. Welcome to the modern era of international internet P2P loans and it is not even a Nigerian Spam Scam.

ascendalliance.org/page.php

www.grameenfoundation.org/welco...yunus/

And then there was tonight's Frontline segment on PBS about a new start up in international P2P microloans; www.kiva.org/ Kiva.

www.pbs.org/frontlinewor...01/index.html

Frontline
www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/

Watch the segment, share the idea and participate as you can. Perhaps this is a real way make the world better one person at a time and make banks compete to do the right thing.
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  • Re: Micro Loans

    Wed, November 1, 2006 - 11:01 PM
    There's a very good The New Yorker article www.newyorker.com/fact/cont...30fa_fact1 on micro-lending.

    I first saw it linked to by Libertarian economist Tyler Cowen www.marginalrevolution.com/marg...ments who took this snippet out of the article:

    "Omidyar and his colleagues say that the biggest obstacle to commercialization of the sector is philanthropic capital. They say that it distorts the market—not only by filling channels that might otherwise draw commercial investors but also by keeping unsustainable programs alive."

    Pierre Omidyar has the eBay fortune, and is interested in social entrepreneurship. His point is not to be taken lightly. But business in the developed world rests on institutions that often don't exist or are poorly developed in the developing world, so it matters very much what the programs and associations which enable micro-lending operate. Bill Gates, from the sounds of the article has concluded that there are many structures that can support micro-credit and micro-lending and is not as worried as Omidyar about philanthropy spoiling a good thing.

    www.trickleup.org/ Trickle Up supports small grants for the very poor and is just one example of enterprises as an approach for poverty reduction.

    Banking services for poor people involve more than access to credit. One of the issues I've been looking for is ways that people in the developing world can get paid for services. For example people in Uganda could do data entry for clients in the USA, but whereas people in the USA can do that and get paid via paypal no such services exist in Uganda. Here's an interesting paper on mBanking www.infodev.org/en/Publication.169.html

    Jan Chipchase travels the world for Nokia to discover uses for their mobile phones they haven't thought of yet, his blog is quite cool www.janchipchase.com/blog/ar...hannels/ He cam across a system for sending money called Sente. Mobile phones are charged, but the value is turned over to a middle man who transfers the money in a network for a commission. The middle man then sells the phone time per minute to recover the money--explained much better here networks.silicon.com/mobile/...3,00.htm

    You raise a very good point, Lazarus about the inefficiency of bureaucracies, but businesses for the poor need more structures than simply access to credit in my opinion. Now the innovation needed is to put into play some of the innovations that organizations like Kiva have made to include peer to peer production into play to build the organizations which can help poor people build businesses.
    • Re: Micro Loans

      Thu, November 2, 2006 - 5:52 AM
      >>>>.....businesses for the poor need more structures than simply access to credit in my opinion. Now the innovation needed is to put into play some of the innovations that organizations like Kiva have made to include peer to peer production into play to build the organizations which can help poor people build businesses. <<<<<

      What I found interesting about Kiva is that they are developing grassroots local lenders organizations that evaluate the loans applications for security, legitimacy, and viability. They even act to influence the outcome of the loan by making input before the fact on the reasonableness of the business plan based on on the spot knowledge of the details.

      This is helping to create a community and helping knit member of that community together through a shared market

      I also still see a couple of issues like loan security. Because there have been no problems to date the issue of *how* to collect has not come up but the principle is still one that must be addressed. At the moment the system has not been abused and the community of borrowers and lenders are operating on a common platform but that may go the way of savings and loans someday. However that day is still some distance in the future.

      BTW, I will get back on the point but I saw in a response on another tribe that a method is being developed to use things like phone cards that are available there as a way of transferring capital directly to the recipient there. Nevertheless you are correct that the issue of how to distribute funds to the persons that need it is one that must be better addressed but that too will be easier when the opportunities of these markets improve.

      Yes. this is a small nascent step but I think we can agree it is in the right direction. Please watch the video everyone (it is about 15 minutes) because it actually addresses some of what we are discussing.

      >>>"Omidyar and his colleagues say that the biggest obstacle to commercialization of the sector is philanthropic capital. They say that it distorts the market—not only by filling channels that might otherwise draw commercial investors but also by keeping unsustainable programs alive." <<<<

      BTW this is the same problem markets encounter with monopolies and cartels. Is it really a surprise to everyone that power really does tend to corrupt?

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