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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 8:32 AMThis is the answer to the question of why the US Govt. is acting as if the value of the dollar is not important. It is to be replaced by the amero.
Nick, you and I don't have to worry for a while as we don't live in any of the three countries to be done in. The US, Mexico and Canada will continue to exist for a while and the NAU will be presented as the administrative organization for the amero and the new super highway between the three nations. But new parts will be added until the three countries will exist in name only. I doubt if anyone will be allowed to vote on this huge change.
Some folks have been blowing the whistle on this for years but they are just labled conspiracy nuts.
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 9:38 AMApparently, the coin is a fake.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero
though plans for a common currency are not. -
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 9:59 AMRight. Why should the US Mint send an example of unreleased currency to Hal?
That was most suspicious. US Government is good at PR, so if it had a new
currency, all major media outlets would get it, not just some fringe so-called
jounalist.
Bernard Lietear (who invented the euro) also proposes a currency called the
Tera for world-wide use, nobody is suggesting that he's the center of a conspiracy... -
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 3:53 PM
Right, those are the "fantasy" coins the article spoke of. What's your point? -
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 4:57 PMJust pointing them out... to confirm they exist and what they are.
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 5:45 PMAmusing. Everyone squables over the privately issued coins but but prefers to ignore the implifications of the NAU, the merging of the US with other countries without the approval of the citizens. No one has any qualms about this? Will the NAU be the world's largest collection of sheep? -
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 6:22 PM
Two points:
1. What's actually being discussed is a trade and security agreement. No one is yielding sovereignty to anyone at this time.
Speaking as someone who lives less than ten miles from the border, and regularly conducts business in Windsor and Toronto, I would welcome an easier crossing into Canada. The current rigmarole is bullshit. Joint security on the continental boundries would be far more effective and significantly less invasive.
2. If there were any truth to the "NAU" rumors; great! The US is a shithole. It could only improve things.
Watch who you call a sheep. At least I'm pulling the wool over my own eyes. -
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Re: Amero
Wed, September 5, 2007 - 9:23 PMYou call it very well when you say "at this time"!
The problem is that NAU would just be a bigger US run shithole, no?
The problem is still, can countries be merged without consultation with the citizens? -
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Re: Amero
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 2:49 PMthe silly part of the "conspiracy theory" is that it's very unlikely that a new "american" currency will ever be printed on paper, much less minted in coins. the real conspiracy currency is likely to electronic, with every transaction permanantly archived. -
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Re: Amero
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 11:24 PMIt IS a scary thought, but one that's been in the works for decades now.
We already have scannable driver's licenses, bank cards, credit cards and all the new passports are likewise equipped with micro chips. It would be quite easy to convince the American public to "simplify" all of our assets, i.e., educational information for students, insurance information on our vehicles, homes, businesses, etc., personal information- using health issues and our children's safety as selling points, and simply issue a "One Card" in lieu of carrying all these other electronic cards.
And then when one of us steps out of line a simple flick of the switch could render us a non-participatory human.
"NO SOUP FOR YOU!"
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Re: Amero
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 4:51 AM
Actually, no one needs to issue us anything. Do a little research into the current uses of RFID chips. I'd be happy to elaborate on this, but I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, and the evidence speaks for itself. -
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Re: Amero
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:44 AMAjm, how do ya figure? At this point not everyone carries a credit or debit card, passport or even a driver's license. In order to implement a fully electronic banking system the Rfid chip would have to be placed on something that everyone is mandated to use. At first this would no doubt be a plastic card of some sort. Something that would also act as a passport for travel throughout the North American Union. Somehting that could act as a health insurance card (providing you're one of the lucky one's who can afford such a luxury), a list of health related issues such as allergies, heart conditions, etc. Something that could be accepted everywhere for damn near everything. Currently we have several different cards carrying out these functions.
As far as embedded rfid chips in human skin, while some may opt for this after being duped into believing it's for their own benefit, I don't see it being embraced en masse immediately. A decade or so of the One Card first, along with the option of embedded Rfid chips in newborn, and by the end of that decade adults will be requesting it for the sake of "simplicity". A decade or so after that and it won't be optional anymore. It will be mandatory...but by then many adults will have already had theirs embedded as infants. But, in order to get to that point there'll need to be a bridge, which is where the One Card will come in for oh, say the next 20 years or so. The American people need to be brainwashed into believing they want these chips first, and a couple of decades of easy use with a plastic card will help get them there. Once they want them, then it'll be time to remove the option of not having them.
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Re: Amero
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 8:57 AMAt least we have the hope of maintaining privacy here in the USA.
I'm thinking of the court case a few years back where a popular
independent bookstore in the Denver area was sued by the
government to release its records on which customers bought
what books. They refused and won the case. But such a win
is possible only on the basis of vigilence of civil libertarians
and the existence of local independent businesses. You can
bet that Amazon won't be so protective of the privacy of its customers.
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Re: Amero
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 9:13 AMKryssa >> but by then many adults will have already had theirs embedded as infants. <<
Reminds me of Logan's Run www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/
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Radio Frequency Identification chips/tags
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 7:29 PMFor several years now, retailers (Walmart is a good example) have been attempting to require RFID use by suppliers and distributors for the purpose of easier shipment tracking.
www.idtechex.com/products/...000161.asp
Manufacturers are now implementing RFID placement in consumer apparel and foorwear.
www.rfidjournalevents.com/apparelsummit/
They hope this will ease product tracking and reduce shrinkage (theft/shoplifting).
An added benefit that ISN'T being mentioned is the boon this represents to consumer spending tracking and individually targeting marketing. Stores have been very eager to ask for personal information when you make a purchase. (ok Sir/Ma'am, may have I have your zip code/telephone number? Great.. that'll be $19.83..) YOU are tied to the purchases you make, the clothing you wear will soon contain RFIDs that can be tracked anytime you pass within ten feet of a passive beacon receptor, and the internet makes all information instantly accessable.
In less than five years, you'll walk into Walmart and a pleasant voice will say, "Hello Mr. Regent. Are you enjoying your new chinos? Do you need to refill your Paxil prescription?" Then, the in-store adverts will be replaced with flatscreen panels displaying products they believe you'll like based on your nationally recorded spending habits.
The ability to do all this exists TODAY. RFIDs don't need to hold the information; they are merely identifier tags. How far is it from there to linking all databases into one information repository?
I'm not an alarmist; I'm a realist. I'm not saying it WILL happen; I'm saying it IS happening already.
Don't take my word for it.
www.spychips.com/
That's how I figure. ;o)
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Re: Amero
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 5:55 AM